The former president accidentally said something very revealing.

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“We are the party of conception because we are for women.” —Donald Trump, speaking about abortion after a rally in Michigan earlier this month

Trump has been all over the news this past week, between Stormy Daniels’ testimony in his hush money trial and the news that Trump’s mysterious, years-long IRS audit could leave him owing $100 million in back taxes. But the Trump news that keeps coming to my mind is a stunning — and accidentally very telling — interview the former president gave to a local news station about reproductive rights. It was mostly a pile of vomit that received very little attention, but it contained a damning Freudian slip that summarized the party’s views on abortion and what rights, if any, should be granted to women.

After a rally in Saginaw County, a Fox 2 host from Detroit asked Trump how abortion would affect the November election. Trump repeated some of his favorite quotes of late, claiming that’s what all legal scholars wanted Roe v. Wade overthrown – a feat he managed to achieve. Now that abortion is a state issue, he says, “It works” and “people are happy with it.” (Trump also didn’t seem to know that Michigan voters had already passed a ballot measure to protect abortion.) This is all a lot of nonsense, but that’s not the part that sticks with me.

Trump then appeared to reference the Alabama Supreme Court ruling declaring that embryos created for in vitro fertilization were legally human beings under wrongful death statutes. The February decision halted IVF treatments in the state and sent GOP members of Congress into a tailspin over whether they support the legality of the fertility treatment. (Shocker: They blocked a Senate bill that would have protected this.) In the interview, Trump tried to claim that the Republican Party is more supportive of IVF than the Democrats, and made a glaring error (starting around 6:30 in this clip):

We are the party of conception because we are for women. We want to help the women. Because they were going to end the fertilization, and that’s what IVF stands for – where women go to the clinics and get help having a baby, and that’s a good thing, not a bad thing. And we are 100 percent for it. (Democrats) tried to say that (Republicans) weren’t for it. They were not actually in favor of it and are not as in favor of it as we are, but women do see that.

Trump’s statement that Republicans are “the party of conception” is inadvertently one of the most honest things he has ever said about abortion. He can swear up and down that he believes it is now a problem for the states, but anti-abortion activists and the current Republican Party have been very clear that their end goal is full legal rights to fertilized eggs – rights that necessarily come at the expense going from the living, breathing humans with said eggs inside.

A month after the IVF controversy in Alabama, the influential Republican Study Committee passed the Life at Conception Act, a House bill that would give embryos legal rights from “the moment of fertilization.” If the Fetal Personhood Act were to become law, it would not only nationalize the Alabama Supreme Court’s decision, but also ban abortion in all fifty states. The RSC includes almost 80 percent of Republicans in the House of Representatives. Days after that bill’s passage, Alliance Defending Freedom CEO Kristen Wagoner told Politico that the legal juggernaut hopes to one day get the Supreme Court to uphold a federal personality-based abortion ban: “We at ADF believe that the constitution protects the life of an unborn child and that it is in the 14th yeare Amendment.” The ADF helped write the Mississippi law that the court always struck down Roo and ostensibly returning abortion to the United States, but it doesn’t stop there.

Another ADF case provides a gruesome illustration of what it means to be a party to conception – and how legal rights during pregnancy can become a zero-sum game. In Moyle v United Stateslegal advocacy group Idaho is helping defend its near-total abortion ban, which only has exceptions to prevent deaths, not health threats. The Biden administration says the ban violates a federal law that requires hospitals to stabilize all emergency room patients whose health or organ function is at risk, even if that care involves abortion. Idaho’s argument was essentially that a woman who has had a miscarriage and is about to lose her uterus may not have a right to an abortion because the state has intervened to protect the life of the fetus – even though the fetus will in many of these cases do not survive. Responding to Judge Elena Kagan’s hypotheticals, the Idaho attorney said, “There are two patients to consider in these circumstances,” and “the two-patient scenario is difficult.” (If the judge rules against the Biden administration, it could mean that pregnant women in Idaho and other states with emergency room abortion bans could face dangerous discrimination.)

Trump’s “fertilization” interview reminded me of another recent pile of abortion nonsense that had some element of honesty in it: his early April video on Truth Social, in which he claimed that he wants to leave abortion to the states, but that the matter is not that important as winner in November. He previewed his video by saying that Republicans “have an obligation to the salvation of our nation… TO WIN ELECTIONS.” He repeated this sentiment to the camera: “You have to follow your heart in this matter. But don’t forget that you also have to win elections to restore our culture and, even more, save our country.”

Trump implying that he can’t pass a national ban now because it’s so unpopular is the most credible thing he said. It was also a wink and nod to conservatives that he is doing what it takes to regain power: they can simply revisit the issue later. And we know exactly what they will do Doing.